The Wild Genetic Goose Case: An
Interview With Neil Holtzman
by Brandon Keim
A renowned researcher, scholar, and activist,
Neil Holtzman has studied for decades the medical use of genetic
technologies. He has largely focused on the policy implications
of the technologies, genetic screening, and the use of genetic
tests to determine susceptibility to common diseases or the
possibility of altered reactions to drug treatments. From
1995 to 1997, he was Chair of the Task Force on Genetic Testing
of the National Institutes of Health - Department of Energy
Working Group on Ethical, Legal, and Social Implications of
Human Genome Research.
For years you've denounced 'genohype', a
term which seems two have two separate but related targets.
First is genetic reductionism, the idea that genes are responsible
for more than they are, and second is the promotion of treatments
and therapies based on genetic information. What do you think
is driving this genohype?
I don't think all genetic research, or all
the attempts to associate genes with disease, is misplaced.
There are, as you know, Mendelian single-gene disorders, and
the genome project has accelerated discovery of the genes
that are implicated in them. Although I never like to use
the term 'determinism', one has to recognize that, for those
rare disorders, the genome project has paid off handsomely.
But they account for a very small portion of all human disease
-- well less than five percent, even as we discover more and
more of them.
It's possible, one might say -- perhaps naively
-- that success in finding genes involved in Mendelian diseases,
which extends much farther back than the genome project, stimulated
people to search for the role of genes in much more common
diseases. I think there was some naivete there. Many of the
people who were making discoveries in the genome project were
not geneticists, but molecular biologists, and had not really
studied the complexity of what have now come to be called
'common complex diseases,' which I think geneticists were
aware of. But even those who were aware lent themselves to
pursuing common complex diseases.
There were a few early successes that further
contributed to this search. The discovery of BRCA-1 and BRCA-2
was felt to be a signal that we could continue to find genes
for a small proportion of the incidence of a common complex
disease -- breast cancer in that case, and then hereditary
nonpolyposis colorectal cancer -- and that we could nibble
away at common complex diseases which might turn out to be
nothing but an aggregation of fairly 'high-penetrant' single
genes.
Could you define 'high-penetrant' genes?
A penetrant gene is one that is almost always
expressed. Rather than use the term 'gene', you should really
say 'allele.' So if someone had an allele for another gene
like BRCA-1, it would mean that person had a very high risk
of developing whatever the disease was.
That's where the genetic epidemiologists came
in. If one looks at populations which have a common complex
disease, if there were highly penetrant alleles that accounted
for those diseases, the pattern within the family that possessed
the particular genotype should be very close to Mendelian;
if it's highly penetrant, then every family member, or almost
every family member, who possessed that particular genotype
would get the disease. But we weren't seeing those patterns.
So it was clear, quite early on, that we were on a wild goose
chase, and the molecular biologists would have seen that if
they'd gone back and looked at the genetic research.
So, to answer your question, I think there
was genuine naivete, and optimism that we would find more
and more genes for common complex diseases. Now, as the search
progressed, and announcements were made -- and then retracted
-- that associations had been made with disorders like schizophrenia,
bipolar affective disorder, and asthma, it became very apparent
that we were not covering a large number of highly penetrant
genotypes that were accounting for those disease. Instead,
two things were happening. One, within a small number of people
for some of these diseases, we were discovering rare highly
penetrant diseases. So, in addition to colon cancer, breast
cancer, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, a rare form of macular degeneration,
and several other diseases, we were finding a very small proportion
of affected people who had a high-penetrant genotype. But
the cases were often very early-onset; so, where we found
high-penetrant genotypes, they were usually in atypical cases.
Among the more typical cases, what were reported,
and what were difficult to corroborate, were low-penetrant
genotypes that appeared in some populations to increase risk
-- but only to a very small extent. Here I think there is
still a lot of misunderstanding and ignorance about what these
genes mean, and the mass media played a role, right up until
about 1999 or 2000, in giving discoveries of low-penetrant
genotypes an inordinate amount of publicity.
These low-penetrant genotypes confer such a
low risk on an individual that they're hardly worth pursuing.
For instance, if you take something that sounds on the surface
as though it ought to be quite important, such as a genotype
which confers a relative risk of disease of two, so that a
person who possesses this genotype would have twice the chance
of getting a disease as someone who didn't, it sounds quite
striking. Almost all of the associations that have been found,
although they're not often reported that way, report odds
ratios that are slightly higher than one.
Now, if you turn that around, recognizing that
many of these associations are with very common genotypes,
and you calculate the chance of somebody who has such a genotype
actually getting the disease, it turns out often to be less
than one in four. It's very doubtful, particularly when dealing
with common genotypes, that people will act -- or should act
-- on a relative risk of twenty-five percent or less. Nor
do we always know that these genotypes are conveying information
about the mechanism of diseases. I think these are increasingly
recognized as being not-very-fruitful areas of research.
A geneticist was describing to me what drives
the continuation of genohype in his field. The younger generation
of scientists largely recognizes the complexity of genes in
relation to development, he said, but funding is typically
available for those who say, 'X implies Y, it's very straightforward
and simple' -- so they end up translating their own work into
reductionist language, and pursuing reductionist projects,
because that's what they can get the money for.
I would hope that people reviewing research
grants these days don't fall as often as they used to for
deterministic, reductionist claims made in grant applications.
Theresa Marteau and I wrote a paper that the
New England Journal of Medicine, much to my astonishment,
rapidly accepted, called 'Will Genetics Revolutionize Medicine?'
In the article we pointed out what I described in response
to the previous question. Other geneticists, particularly
Ken Weiss, Joe Terwilliger, and several others, have really
raised the issue of complexity to the point where funding
agencies in the government should recognize that this is a
low-yield area of research. I've said before that I think
the government, and the NIH in particular, should get out
of the business of funding searches for genes or genotypes
for common complex diseases because it is so low-yield. If
private industry in this country wants to do it, so be it.
There's another path that's been taken. It's
best characterized by DeCode Genetics, a private company which
succeeded in getting the Icelandic government to grant them
access to medical records of all the people of Iceland. The
idea was that the Icelandic population had a common origin,
so it would be easier to find associations between genes and
disease. There are a number of other variants on this process:
Estonia is one, there is another in the United Kingdom, and
there is even talk at NIH of trying to gather a large cohort
of people who could be genotyped and then followed for the
appearance of common complex disease. I think this is a waste
of resources. It's very clear that if you want to find these
small relative risks and have them corroborated, you need
enormous populations, because the risks are so small and the
predictive value so tiny to begin with.
I've looked at a number of papers written by
Kari Stefansson, DeCode's president, and the odds he's published
of associations in the Icelandic population between particular
genotypes and diseases are very low. It's not persuasive to
me that this is a fruitful line of research, or one that should
be supported by public funds.
So far you have discussed predictive applications
of genetics. Do you think there are any more useful avenues
of research in pharmacogenomics -- in tailoring treatments
to an individual's genotype?
It's actually quite analogous to disease. There
are a few genotypes that do alter a person's reaction to particular
drugs, and we've known these for years. One very striking
example is between glucose 6 phosphate dehydronyase deficiency
-- G6DD -- and hemolytic anemia following the ingestion of
one category of malaria drugs. It turns out that the forms
of G6DD deficiency are present in fairly large frequencies
among Black and Asian populations. Even though the predictive
values may not be very large, they are larger than those between
genotypes and common complex diseases, and the reactions are
severe and quite predictable. There is also a rare genetic
predisposition for adverse reactions to a category of drugs
used to treat one form of leukemia, and people who have it
cannot metabolize these drugs and often have severe, and sometimes
lethal, reactions. That genotype occurs in about one in three
hundred people, which is considered to be relatively rare,
though I would argue that for this particular form of leukemia
people should be tested for this rare genotype before the
drug is administered.
Having said that, there has been a lot of interest
by the pharmaceutical industry and government in looking for
other genotype-related reactions. In 2001, I published a chapter
in a book by Mark Rothstein on pharmacogenetics where I looked
at the claims of pharmacogenomicists, and when one did the
arithmetic, and translated the associations and the odds ratios
and the relative risks and the predictive values, they weren't
very high. The chance that someone who ingested one of the
drugs they discussed would have a bad reaction or would not
respond to the drug was only about one in three or one in
four, and very often there was no alternative drug to give
people. Many physicians, even if aware of this, would have
no choice but to use these drugs. It would be good medical
practice to simply follow patients closely, starting on low
doses and titrating them, and not relying only on the report
of a pharmacogenetic test, which says that a patient has a
greater chance of having a severe reaction. The tests simply
aren't good enough.
Why do these tests, whether for diseases or
for drug reactions, only discover genotypes of low penetrance?
It's not a fault of the tests. When the laboratories which
perform them are of high quality, the tests can be quite accurate.
We're not talking about test mistakes; we're talking about
the fact that genotypes themselves do not always result in
disease. The reason is that there are many other factors:
genes that we haven't yet identified that also have low penetrance,
or may even have no penetrance by themselves at all but are
expressed only in reaction to a disease when other genotypes
at independent loci are present, or when there are environmental
factors. Clearly this is the case with drug reactions, but
it may be the case with diseases, too.
So, in the area of pharmacogenetics, there
is some promise, but not very much. The pharmaceutical industry
is probably split on this. The people who are working on pharmacogenomics
think it's terrific, but other people are aware of the relatively
low success rate, and recognize that many of the promised
tests will have a lot of false positives: people who would
not have a reaction to the drug, but look like they might
-- and it's impossible to predict who they will be. So there
would be a smaller market open to the pharmaceutical industry,
which would have to try to develop an alternative for those
people. That brings up a tricky issue. There has been the
assocation, which I think is largely spurious, between drug
reactions and so-called race categories. Depending on circumstances,
the drug companies may say, 'Well, these people aren't going
to pay for the drug anyway, so why should we bother with an
alternative?'
I'm not deprecating all of genetic research,
though I've sometimes been accused of that. The yields for
single-gene diseases have been very impressive; treatments
have lagged behind, but as we learn more about those diseases,
treatments will come. From a clinical point of view, continued
research into single-gene diseases which follow a Mendelian
pattern of inheritance is certainly important -- but, beyond
that, the area of basic research, of trying to understand
how genes function, of things like gene-protein relations,
is extremely important. Further research into evolution, including
primate and human evolution in terms of genetic differences,
is also important in telling us much more about our origins.
Another vital area is the unquestionable fact that in many
common diseases, somatic genetics plays a role. As a disease
unfolds in an individual, for reasons we don't understand,
but where there is no clear pattern of inheritance, genes
in certain tissues subjected to environmental stress will
undergo reactions and will mutate in one particular cell and
all the daughter cells derived from that cell. These mutations
are not transmitted from one generation of individuals to
the next, but occur within a particular cell or tissue of
one person. That's how most cancers develop: not because of
inherited mutations, but because of acquired mutations in
particular cells in, say, a breast or lung, after which further
somatic or acquired mutations transform the tissue from healthy
to malignant. This area is receiving some attention, and should
receive much more.
Stepping back from the utility of medical
genetics, what sort of regulatory system does the United States
have in place? What are its strengths and shortcomings? Are
there regulatory changes which need to be made -- and, if
so, where does the impetus need to come from?
As you probably know, I chaired the NIH/Department
of Energy task force on genetic testing. We met from about
1995 to 1997, and produced a report called Promoting Safe
and Effective Genetic Testing in the United States. I'm
quite proud of that, for it laid out what should be done to
validate a genetic test. We introduced terms that are now
widely accepted: analytical validity, clinical validity, and
clinical utility, and defined each of them. They had been
used, one or the other, before, but in a fairly loose sense.
We said there had to be some demonstration of these three
characteristics before a test became routinely used in clinical
practice.
When we looked at the regulatory framework
at that time, which is still the framework today, we found
that it was particularly lacking in the area of tests which
are marketed as services. For instance, laboratories today
do not sell kits for testing BRCA-1 and BRCA-2, but market
a service. If a doctor collects a specimen from a patient
for whom he thinks BRCA testing might be useful, he must send
it for analysis to the laboratory of Myriad Genetics, a private
company which owns the patent on that test. For years Myriad
has successfully claimed that they are not under FDA purview,
since they provide their tests as a service rather than as
a kit, and to this day this company has never made available
data on the clinical validity of their BRCA-1 and BRCA-2 tests.
By contrast, companies that manufacture kits which are then
marketed and sold to physicians for use in their office laboratories,
or to hospitals or other large clinical laboratories, must
go through strict FDA study. The FDA requires that they demonstrate
clinical validity. They must establish the sensitivity, specificity,
and predictive value of the test.
When the task force met, we asked the FDA whether
they had the legal authority to regulate tests marketed as
services. They said yes, but claimed that because of resource
limitations they could never do so. It also turns out that
the medical device industry lobbied very hard against this
sort of regulation.
We started talking with the FDA about how they
could regulate tests marketed as services. We began to develop
with them algorithms for doing so. And then, when the task
force disbanded, the Secretary's Advisory Committee on Genetic
Testing was developed, partly at our recommendation, by Donna
Shalala, the Clinton administration's Secretary of the Department
of Health and Human Services. They did what we couldn't do:
they recommended in their report that the FDA should regulate
all genetic tests, with the clear implication that they regulate
tests marketed as services as well as test kits. We then had
a change in administration; the committee was disbanded, and
a number of its more regulation-prone members were removed
when a new committee was created. Looking at the agenda of
this committee, it's not at all clear that they will again
tackle the question of FDA regulation, though there is as
great a need for it as ever.
There is an important regulatory role to be played, and it
has been dropped.
How do, and should, physicians approach
medical genetic technologies?
In the late 1990's, one of my doctoral students
did a study in which she surveyed physicians' use of genetic
tests, particularly for breast cancer. What she found in that
area, and to a lesser extent with cystic fibrosis, was that
physicians ordering the tests did not have a good knowledge
of either the disease or the characteristics of the test they
were ordering.
Clearly there is a need for educating physicians.
How that need is being fulfilled I don't know. One of the
problems is that, largely under the instigation of Francis
Collins -- Director of the National Human Genome Research
Institute and a leader in the Human Genome Project -- there
is something called the National Coalition for Health Professional
Education in Genetics, which has as its main task the education
of healthcare providers about genetic tests. I think it's
partly promotional, designed to make sure that, when there
are tests available, physicians will use them. Physicians
also receive a great deal of promotional literature from companies
like Myriad. The organizations responsible for education need
to be regulated. Which brings me to another point: direct-to-consumer
marketing. Myriad last year took out television commercials
for their tests in Denver and Atlanta. How much that stimulated
business I don't know, but the probability is that many women
who had their physicians order tests were so low-risk that
the test was of no benefit. In fact, the genetics community
has now developed a good protocol for ordering genetic tests
like those involving BRCA-1 and BRCA-2. The risks must be
fairly significant for them to be ordered.
There are now a number of websites, documented
in the peer-reviewed literature, that offer genetic tests.
In some cases, these sites offer tests that I never heard
of, such as 'neutragenomics.' They offer tests for which there
is no evidence at all that they predict anything to any degree.
In another example, a genotype was found and
thought to be highly predictive of hemochromatosis, a disease
which is usually adult-onset and leads to severe iron overload
and eventually liver, kidney, and heart failure. It turns
out that many people who have the genotype never develop severe
iron overload, or any overload at all -- yet there is now
a consumer organization that promotes genetic screening for
the genotype. These are indications of inappropriate use of
genetic tests and the failure of regulatory agencies to control
them.
Do you think that advances in medical genetics
will be widely accessible, or will they be affordable by only
a few?
In countries with some form of universal health
insurance, there's a greater chance that, if these tests prove
to have clinical validity and utility, they will be equitably
distributed. That's not to say that countries with national
health insurance will decide to cover them -- but at least
there's a format and protocols for looking at new medical
interventions and deciding whether they are appropriate for
coverage.
In this country, of course, it's a completely
different situation. I think that, as is the case with something
as expensive as in vitro fertilization, it's not going to
be equitably distributed. That's compounded by the fact that
many genetic tests are patented. That is the case with Myriad's
tests, about whom there has been a great deal of international
controversy. The company has a monopoly, and has optimized
its price to maximize its profits. Provinces in Canada, particularly
Ontario, and in the United Kingdom and France, have really
acted very vigorously not to adhere to Myriad's claims of
exclusivity. Ontario, for instance, provides a test much more
cheaply than Myriad, making it available to all women in its
health system. If they had to adhere to Myriad's pricing,
they couldn't do it. Patenting claims are an important complicating
factor.
There is one area of genetics in which equity,
even in the United States, has been practiced, and that is
newborn screening. Every infant in the United States is screened
for a number of disorders, and the number of disorders which
we can detect has increased in the last several years because
of a new technology called tandem mass spectrometry. But it
turns out that this technology is patented, with the rights
held by a company called Pediatrix. So far, Pediatrix has
not asserted its claim, but it could do so. If Pediatrix did,
it could undermine statewide screening programs and the universal
availability of newborn screening.
Looking into the future, what do you see
as the role of genetics in medicine in, say, ten years? A
generation from now? Do you see points of possible divergence
in these outcomes, where one set of key decisions, or a certain
social climate, will lead to one particular future, and another
set to a different one?
I think a worst-case scenario is that weakly
predictive tests will get out into the marketplace and that
their usefulness will be exaggerated. If that happens, the
notion of genetic determinism -- of blaming the victim, of
holding his or her genotype responsible -- is likely to diminish
efforts to improve the environment and social situations.
That would be disastrous.
We are not going to learn much or accomplish
much by the advancement of tests for common complex diseases,
and they will deter us from other avenues of research, particularly
with respect to environmental factors and genetic-environmental
interactions, that would have a much higher yield. I hope
there will be a growing realization that this is not fruitful,
and that attention given to the genetics of common complex
diseases and pharmacogenetics dwindles.
On the other hand, I think we will make, with
sufficient funding, advances in basic genetic research, as
was the case in 1953 with the discovery of the double helix.
I don't think it's possible to predict where that basic research
will lead us. It may be that scientists will be clever enough
to be able to identify what I call 'constellations' of genotypes
-- that is, particular alleles at independently segregated
loci, which are inherited independently of each other -- that
will have a significant amount of predictive value. But I
don't see that happening in the foreseeable future.